Thursday, August 30, 2012

The three sides debate fiercely Peking University " L Practise medicine illegally " R CCTV: The fact is indisputable

The three sides debate fiercely Peking University " L Practise medicine illegally " R CCTV: The fact is indisputable
Background news: The public service hospital practised medicine illegally, the Peking University Professor died tragically in the hospital of Peking University (Fig.)
Ministry of Public Health urged Beijing Municipal Health Bureau to grow and pay the serious investigation in clinic diagnosis question to medical science of BJ Univ Hospital that the media reported yesterday, the clear fact of the core, put forward the handling suggestion, and announce to the society in time.
Meanwhile, Ministry of Public Health requires the question that BJ Univ Hospital appears to clinical teaching, draw inferences about other cases from one instance, rectify and improve conscientiously, and report relevant situations to medical science department and department in charge of education of Peking University in time, cooperate with health authorities to investigate conscientiously that handle this incident well actively.
Ministry of Public Health says, it is important components of teaching of medical education to study and practise the activity clinically in medical science. Before every clinician goes on the work position, must need medical science which went through some time to study and practise the course clinically. According to>With>Relevant until medical science give birth to and on the probationary period graduates medical engaged in clinical practice activity's lasting clear management expectancying in regulation, Ministry of Public Health and Ministry of Education.
From strict meaning, is that the clinical practice in the medical education moves about that the medical graduate's clinical practice in the medical organization move about in growing in medical science and probationary period, and the informal one practises medicine. The control over this kind of activity, have laws and can be depended on, have regulations to abide by. Of our country criminal law to " L Practise medicine illegally " R Define specifically,engaged in by clinical practice activity as graduates medical of probationary period excluding being born at medical science.
>Relevant content
Under growing the supervision of teaching the teacher in the clinical tape, guiding in medical science, can contact and observe a patient, inquire patient's medical history, check patient's physical sign, consult patient's relevant materials, participate in analyzing and discussing patient's condition, write the case history and patient's course of disease in hospital and record, fill in all kinds of and check and handle single, doctor's order and prescription, make a diagnosis to the patient relevantly and operate, participate in relevant operations.
The medical graduate can offer corresponding clinic diagnosis service for patient under guiding the doctor's supervision, guiding in probationary period.
Medical science born medical graduate participate in the intersection of medical education and the intersection of clinic diagnosis and activity must bring up, teach teacher or guide the intersection of doctor and supervision, guidance while being clinical with probationary period, can't offer clinic diagnosis service for patient alone. Clinical practice about making a diagnosis the intersection of characters and material that produce must bring up, teach teacher or instruct doctor check, regard as the medical file formally sign, while being clinical in the course.
BJ Univ Hospital responds the saying of practising medicine illegally unureally
To the report of CCTV Economy 30 Minutes, BJ Univ Hospital responded and claimed yesterday, report the content is unfounded, quote a remark out of its context .
About the bear is tall and erect it is the death
BJ Univ Hospital say the dead tall and erect to make a diagnosis and give treatment for lumbar vertebrae slip at this courtyard of dept.s of orthopedics in hospital bear have, operate, succeed in, implement operation by Li ChunDe Professor, head of the department of bone, pulmonary embolism and complication have take place while being postoperative, all rescue measures proved ineffectual to pass the hospital with all strength in the death of ICU.
Pulmonary embolism lie in bed while being postoperative dept. of orthopedics might take place cause complication of fatal character one of, one's own success can't be denied to perform the operation. Should be preventative to use statements such as low molecular Heparin,etc., still have disputes in the scientific circles of bone at present, essential content of the guide that and does not make a diagnosis.
Yu ZhengRong is not " L Practise medicine illegally " R
Occur repeatedly in the program " L Practise medicine illegally " R Or " L Practise medicine without licences " R Wait for the vocabulary, the non- true report. Bear tall and erect to be performed a surgical operation, manage into the intersection of doctor and Li ChunDe the intersection of department and this institute the intersection of bone and head of the department, it is a registered doctor of the hospital, other relevant doctors do not also exist " L Practise medicine illegally " R Situation.
Resident that this case involve on lofty and steep to make doctor's qualification also. According to department of public health to Gansu Province of Ministry of Public Health " L The reply of relevant questions about practising medicine illegally " : " Have already obtained>,And possess, apply for medical practitioner, register doctor of terms, non- one's own reason result in, get doctor in front of the practising certificate, prevent the intersection of operation and activity in the health institution and working time, belong to, practise medicine illegally in medical treatment that accept betrothal gifts it. " Had already obtained the lofty and steep doctor at that time>,So does not practise medicine illegally; And the court has never got while this case tried " Practise medicine illegally " R Judge conclusion. This is decided in the first instance judgement of this case.
Interfere the justice
This program broadcast two days of second instance of this case ago, the irresponsible report before pronouncing may interfere the administration of justice, influence the fairness of the administration of justice seriously.
Liu XiGao has no representativeness
BJ Univ Hospital is a comprehensive teaching hospital of Peking University, many medical graduate students follow the doctor with practicing qualification and study and participate in a resident and train in the courtyard, the graduate student is different from ordinary medical science to give birth to, they have been all already obtaining the medical bachelor's degree and accepting the regular resident is being trained.
Liu of emergency call wish doctor Gao the undergraduate course graduates, make the medical bachelor's degree already, according to Ministry of Public Health office about " Whether the professional academic graduate's medical activity in trial employment period of regular medical science belongs to the reply practising medicine illegally " : " Obtain the intersection of province and grades of medicine that educational administrative department approve the above, study the intersection of universities and colleges and the intersection of medical science and professional graduate of education, try out in medical organization, can be engaged in the corresponding medical activity under the guidance of doctors of higher authorities, does not belong to and practise medicine illegally. " Liu XiGao has what doctors of higher authorities guided in the emergency call on duty according to the regulation of the hospital, do not belong to and practise medicine illegally.
Violate the intersection of hospital and regulation, ask the intersection of higher authorities and doctor for instructions and it opens the prescription to be his individual behavior without authorization investigate secretly, without representativeness, it has already dealt with according to the regulation that BJ Univ Hospital said, are criticizing and educating now at present.
>It is indisputable to reply the fact
According to the blue and green newspaper report of the north, to the statement that BJ Univ Hospital sends, CCTV >The column made the following to reply yesterday : " What we pay close attention to the fact most are not individual and dispute of doctors and patients taking place between the hospitals, but attempt to stand on the majority's position, come to understand the state that we see the doctor: It is students ' the doctor ' how much the ones that see the doctor for us are, how much have to practise medicine without license " The members of the column group say, the initial clue of the program is offered by husband, Wang JianGuo of victim, the column group relatively hesitated at that time, " L The thing happened in 2006, it was only an example that we worried about this too, consulted general secretary of Beijing bar association Sun WanJun later, he says ' there are three cases that involve BJ Univ Hospital in the hand ' We send the reporter to experience and interview . "
-BJ Univ Hospital declares : Occur repeatedly in the program " L Practise medicine illegally " R Or " L Practise medicine without licences " R Wait for the vocabulary, the also non- true report. The intersection of resident and ZhengRong Yu that this case involve obtain the intersection of doctor and the intersection of qualification and these, decide in the first instance judgement of this case already.
>Go back to answer: Death date when Xiong Zhuo is was January 31, 2006, but May 25, 2006 in the registration date of lofty and steep operation doctor, this can be registered from the professional doctor of Ministry of Public Health and found on the net. During giving to Xiong Zhuo and making a diagnosis to the professor, Yu ZhengRong does not possess the qualification of practising medicine.
-BJ Univ Hospital declares: This program broadcast two days of second instance of this case ago, the irresponsible report before pronouncing may interfere the administration of justice, influence the fairness of the administration of justice seriously.
>Go back to answer: When the program broadcasts, we do not know the thing of the second instance.
-BJ Univ Hospital declares: Violate the intersection of hospital and regulation, ask the intersection of higher authorities and doctor for instructions and it opens the prescription to be his individual behavior without authorization investigate secretly, there is no representativeness.
>Go back to answer: If really as BJ Univ Hospital says, the hospital is ignorant, it is a personal behavior that students practise medicine, why prescription that these students open to lofty and steep, Duan HongZhou, Xiao JianTao, Liu XiGao, get medicines in the dispensary, OK?
-BJ Univ Hospital declares: The way that the reporter of CCTV makes a video recording through the hole of the needle carries on the unreal report.
>Go back to answer: The fact is put in that place, can't debate and refute!
Reply that the kings of the dead relatives found the state
One that is to BJ Univ Hospital, back to answer, king, relative of the dead, found the state and say in their blogs:
During this case lawsuit, to in the fact that lofty and steep, Duan HongZhou and Xiao JianTao practise medicine illegally, Beijing Health Inspection, through investigating, asserts this three people belonged to and practised medicine illegally at that time, and provide the document with the title in red characters. This file was picked the letter by the court later .
Death date when Xiong Zhuo is was January 31, 2006, but May 25, 2006 in the registration date of lofty and steep operation doctor, this can be registered from doctor of operation of Ministry of Public Health and found on the net.
Yu ZhengRong, Duan HongZhou, Xiao JianTao are regarded as the physician-in-charge during giving to Xiong Zhuo in order to make a diagnosis, practise medicine independently, all prescriptions, doctor's orders, operation records, including death certificate, their signature only, any does not instruct the doctor's signature to confirm.
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